Audio Branding: The Hidden Gem
with Jodi Krangle
Fast forward to 1993. Through gaming (Dungeons and Dragons, to be exact), I was introduced to “Filk” music—the music that’s played at science fiction/fantasy conventions. In 1994, I joined two friends from the fandom world to form an acoustic band called Urban Tapestry. In our time together, we’ve headlined at music conventions in Canada, the U.S., and Europe.
Here are some fun facts about me:
* I was honored to be the Winner of the 2018 SOVAS Award for Outstanding Narration Demo. (That's the voice over Academy Awards. 😉 )
* I’m a filker! My all-female, acoustic band, Urban Tapestry is pretty well-known in the Filk scene (science fiction- / fantasy-themed music).
* I’m a self-taught computer nerd. I sold computer hardware back when the 386SX was shiny and new. (Wow, am I showing my age!)
* My love of computers led to my discovery of this mind-blowing thing called the internet back in the early 1990s. That led me into web design and the creation of a songwriting resource called The Muse’s Muse that I ran from 1994 until 2016.
* I started doing search engine optimization and internet marketing work back when banner ads were all the rage. (I’m getting older by the second . . . )
* If I could have a chip in my head keeping me connected to the Internet, I’d totally do that. I’m just about constantly connected (which is how I’m able to respond to emails so quickly)!
In case you’re wondering, yes, I’m a grown woman who (still) loves comic books and D&D. Think of me as a smart, wry, Tina Fey-like, post-apocalyptic warrior princess leading an army of Dr. Who and Firefly fans in an epic battle cry.
"If you're not paying as much attention to the way your brand sounds as you are to the way it looks, you're doing it a disservice and not making as deep a connection with your audience as you could."
-Jodi Krangle
I’ve done voiceovers in the healthcare, corporate, hospitality, political, and non-profit sectors, among others. I tend to stick to the commercial and corporate narration lane of voice overs - and my ultimate goal of making other people money with my voice, led me to discussing audio branding - something I knew I was contributing to with my voice.
My highly satisfied clients include Dell, Bose, BBVA, Subway, Mitre, Unisom, Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital, Kraft, Travel Alberta, HGTV, and more.
I also happen to have some folks listening who are fellow voice talent wanting to understand more about the larger picture their voices are contributing to. But I also reach people who are just interested in the subject of how to understand how sound affects us in our daily lives.
Voice overs are what I love (I've been doing this over 15 years full time now) - but I also want to do my best to raise all boats for those of us who work in sound. Audio shouldn't be the after thought in a production - and it often is. It's unfortunate - because paying attention to the sound early on - making it equally as important as the visuals - can make a so so production into something truly outstanding - because it'll reach us on a deep, emotional level. (You think I'm making this up? Try watching a movie without the sound on and see how emotionally invested you are in what's happening on the screen. Not much, am I right? I'm not a horror fan. If I turn off the sound on a horror movie, I can watch it just fine. 😉 )
“Yeah, for me personally, I love anything that tells me… I find myself drawn to shows that are like, ‘We’re gonna make something interesting that’s not interesting at all.’ And then they’re like, ‘Let’s talk about broccoli.’ And then they’re like, ‘Let’s talk about cement.’ And then the next episode is, ‘Let’s talk about neon.’ And I just love that. Maybe they do the history of it. Maybe they weave in the person who discovered neon. Can you discover neon? I think you can, because it’s on the periodic table of elements. Might need to be manipulated. Either way. These are the kind of things, these are shows that I find myself going back to time and time again.” – Arielle Nissenblatt
This episode’s guest is a Big Fan of Podcasts™ and the podcast industry. She’s the founder of EarBuds Podcast Collective, a podcast recommendation newsletter, the host of several podcasts about the podcast industry, including a show about podcast recommendations and a show about podcast trailers, and regularly appears on podcasts about podcasts to talk about – you guessed it – podcasts. She’s on the Board of Governors of The Podcast Academy and speaks at conferences around the world on podcast marketing and community building. When it comes to podcasts, she knows her stuff.
Her name is Arielle Nissenblatt, and you’ll want to hear her perspective as a long-time advocate for the podcasting industry – both on what’s happening now, and where we’re heading in the future. If you’ve ever thought about starting a podcast of your own, or you want to find out how to get the most from your current podcast, then keep listening. This is one conversation you don’t want to miss!
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(0:00:01) – Exploring the Power of Podcasting
We start things off with Arielle’s early experiences with sound, and particularly the impression that radio made on her compared to streaming platforms like Spotify. “I think the excitement for me about radio is the serendipity,” she explains. “A song that I would skip if it came up on my Spotify, I would not skip. I would be more excited about it, even if it were, like, a mainstream song.” She recalls how she first discovered podcasting in 2014, and how she quickly learned that the key to a compelling podcast is a hook, whether it’s an engaging topic or an engrossing story. “He eulogizes Neanderthals,” she says about a favorite episode of Mo Rocca’s podcast Mobituaries, “When did we learn about them? How did we first discover them? How do they contribute to how we view humans today? So what I like about this is, yes, there’s storytelling involved. He brings us in with a story.”
(0:09:44) – The Impact of Podcasting Evolution
Our discussion turns to the topic of podcasting during the pandemic, and the mark COVID-19 left on the industry. “A lot of great shows came out of that and still exist to this day,” she says, “and a lot of shows came out of that and are done and they’re pandemic-era shows.” We talk about the challenges of building an audience today compared to those early days of podcasting, and how much a good podcast can contribute to your brand even if it isn’t making a lot of money on its own. “I do so many projects that make me little to no money,” she explains, “but there are other reasons for me to be doing them. They feed your soul, and they eventually work as a funnel to the things I do for a living.”
(0:18:19) – Enhancing Podcast Editing With AI
The first half of our conversation concludes with a look at the differences between audio and video editing styles, and how social media has helped normalize the jump cut. “We’re lucky because we live in a day and age where jump cuts are cool on YouTube and on TikTok and things like that,” she tells us. “So whenever people ask me about that, I’m like, ‘Hey, no, actually don’t worry about it, because the kids are liking it.’” She explains how AI has helped transform her workflow and its limitations when it comes to creating content versus sorting through it. “I don’t plan on using it for aiding the creative side of things,” Arielle explains, “but to script out my workflow, to script out, um, how to outline something, that is something that I would like to, that I would like to get more into.”
Episode Summary
- Arielle’s journey into podcasting and what helps a podcast stand out from the crowd.
- The pandemic’s impact on podcasting, and Arielle’s work with Squadcast and Descript.
- What sets generative and traditional AI apart, and the hidden value of show notes.
Tune in for next week’s episode as Arielle shares her tips for creating a perfect podcast trailer without extra video footage, choosing the right time to make the jump to a subscription podcast, and avoiding the pitfalls that can come from having a mismatched podcast and fan community.
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